>> guest: oh, i don't know what to tell diane in brooklyn. she doesn't, um, seem to have an open mind. i would guess i'd ask her to read "the debt," and perhaps after she's read it she might be thoughtful about these things. or at least she can understand how we, of course, convey from one generation to the next the disabilities sustained. everything we do we come by from our parents for good or ill, and when our parents are crippled, so is the child. hurt people hurt people. when you have space to love, when you're whole enough, you always given by loving yourself -- you always begin by loving yourself. to love yourself, you have to know your story. when i was a little boy and hadn't heard of timbuktu and then discovered it's significance and the significance of africa and its an tig bity -- an tig bity, that all of greece's gods came from egypt and all of egypt's came from ethiopia before the dawn of time, that greece is science, it's math -- that greece's science, its math, its literature, so much are from ancient egypt. when i was a child